05 October 2010
Wow. Just... Wow.
If you'd like to form your own opinion, you'll probably want to go read the article in it's entirety. The readers digest version: the county has a program where you must pay annually to be covered by the fire department. If you have not paid the fee, the fire department's policy is that they will not help you. The homeowner in the story had not paid the fee. The fire department did respond to the scene because a neighbor who had paid called, in fear that his own property would also catch on fire. The firefighters did not help the original home that caught on fire.
Rural Tennessee fire sparks conservative ideological debate
I'm rolling up my sleeves on this one, because with the constant we're being overtaxed! Stop taxing me! No, tax me! I want this free! Give me back my school's aid! This should be included! yada yada debate we have going on in this country these days, I can't resist. No, really, I can't.
Shortly after we moved into our home several years ago, a house several doors down burnt to the ground. It took well over ten minutes for the fire department to get here, and in that time frame, well, there wasn't anything left. The pets perished, the kids got out thank goodness. It seriously was the thing my personal nightmares are made of. While neighbors were standing around staring, I did what I was trained to do having grown up in the countryside - my garden hoses were out and I went to town watering the side of my house nearest the fire and my yard.
My home is under 650 square feet and an older, wooden structure. If it takes around 10 minutes for the fire department to get here - which is reasonable, when you think about it - 5 minutes for everyone to get loaded, 5 minutes from the department for travel time - I know my home will be past the point of saving. All I can do is pray that if I need to, I can get us out of the house and to safety in time. I keep my grass short, my yard clear from potential fire starters, and outdoor clutter away from my house - which is more than I can say for some of my neighbors. In fact, for all my cranking about this house falling apart, I fear the neighbors' homes catching on fire more than my own - and our main source of heat is wood!
So to get this in relevance with the story above, I can kind of understand WHY the homeowner did not pay the original fee. If Kitsap County (this is where I live, for the out of towners) was to implement this same fee annually, I can see my husband and I getting into the debate of whether it's even worth it. Would I end up paying it? Yes of course, but I'd grumble the whole way through it. As I am sure that homeowner is going to find out, I don't think his homeowners insurance is going to be too thrilled with his situation. Hmmm... let's see? $75 to save everything I own? Technically... that's a bargain. Hello, these guys DO put their lives on the line each time they do their job.
Now the owner, when calling 911 said he would be willing to pay ALL COSTS. He was turned down - the fire department's policy.
What frustrates and shocks me is that the fire department responded to the scene (as per a neighbor's 911 call in fear their home would burn down) and was all ready to go, and still didn't put out the fire. The firefighters are there, suited up, ready to spring into action. The chance to stop the situation from getting any worse should have been taken, and the homeowner who's house was on fire should have been billed for the manpower/utilities used - at a premium.
Being a history person, I am well aware that in the "old days" firefighters were paid like insurance. If you paid in, they'd help. If not? Sorry, buster. You're fresh out of luck. These days, so many of us assume everything is paid for with all the taxes we pay and levies that are passed. However, with budget shortfalls, and money coming in less and less, I have a feeling we'll be seeing a lot more situations like the one above.
You have to think that with the economy as tanked as it is, folks would have problems not only paying an annual fee - but paying the fire department's cost if they were needed. Is it gas to get to work, to pay bills, or the annual fee? Which would YOU choose? Geez. I wouldn't want to have to make that decision, it's frightening enough.
So do you agree with what went down? Should the fire department stick to it's policies? Should it even be an issue to begin with, or should firefighters, police, etc automatically have to respond thanks to our taxes - even if they have to be raised? Should we be fully billed for the fire department's services should we need it, and stop using our tax money to fund it? (Play nice though, please don't attack your fellow commenters.)
Rural Tennessee fire sparks conservative ideological debate
I'm rolling up my sleeves on this one, because with the constant we're being overtaxed! Stop taxing me! No, tax me! I want this free! Give me back my school's aid! This should be included! yada yada debate we have going on in this country these days, I can't resist. No, really, I can't.
Shortly after we moved into our home several years ago, a house several doors down burnt to the ground. It took well over ten minutes for the fire department to get here, and in that time frame, well, there wasn't anything left. The pets perished, the kids got out thank goodness. It seriously was the thing my personal nightmares are made of. While neighbors were standing around staring, I did what I was trained to do having grown up in the countryside - my garden hoses were out and I went to town watering the side of my house nearest the fire and my yard.
My home is under 650 square feet and an older, wooden structure. If it takes around 10 minutes for the fire department to get here - which is reasonable, when you think about it - 5 minutes for everyone to get loaded, 5 minutes from the department for travel time - I know my home will be past the point of saving. All I can do is pray that if I need to, I can get us out of the house and to safety in time. I keep my grass short, my yard clear from potential fire starters, and outdoor clutter away from my house - which is more than I can say for some of my neighbors. In fact, for all my cranking about this house falling apart, I fear the neighbors' homes catching on fire more than my own - and our main source of heat is wood!
So to get this in relevance with the story above, I can kind of understand WHY the homeowner did not pay the original fee. If Kitsap County (this is where I live, for the out of towners) was to implement this same fee annually, I can see my husband and I getting into the debate of whether it's even worth it. Would I end up paying it? Yes of course, but I'd grumble the whole way through it. As I am sure that homeowner is going to find out, I don't think his homeowners insurance is going to be too thrilled with his situation. Hmmm... let's see? $75 to save everything I own? Technically... that's a bargain. Hello, these guys DO put their lives on the line each time they do their job.
Now the owner, when calling 911 said he would be willing to pay ALL COSTS. He was turned down - the fire department's policy.
What frustrates and shocks me is that the fire department responded to the scene (as per a neighbor's 911 call in fear their home would burn down) and was all ready to go, and still didn't put out the fire. The firefighters are there, suited up, ready to spring into action. The chance to stop the situation from getting any worse should have been taken, and the homeowner who's house was on fire should have been billed for the manpower/utilities used - at a premium.
Being a history person, I am well aware that in the "old days" firefighters were paid like insurance. If you paid in, they'd help. If not? Sorry, buster. You're fresh out of luck. These days, so many of us assume everything is paid for with all the taxes we pay and levies that are passed. However, with budget shortfalls, and money coming in less and less, I have a feeling we'll be seeing a lot more situations like the one above.
You have to think that with the economy as tanked as it is, folks would have problems not only paying an annual fee - but paying the fire department's cost if they were needed. Is it gas to get to work, to pay bills, or the annual fee? Which would YOU choose? Geez. I wouldn't want to have to make that decision, it's frightening enough.
So do you agree with what went down? Should the fire department stick to it's policies? Should it even be an issue to begin with, or should firefighters, police, etc automatically have to respond thanks to our taxes - even if they have to be raised? Should we be fully billed for the fire department's services should we need it, and stop using our tax money to fund it? (Play nice though, please don't attack your fellow commenters.)
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5 comments:
It's a dreadful situation. But reading your post really made me see the firefighter's point of view and why they couldn't "hose for free."
My thoughts go immediately to.. what if someone had been in the house? What then? Do they not respond? Do they not go in if someone could be dying in there? I just don't know what to think about the situation.. I see both sides, I honestly do.. but, I just think about all of the what-ifs too..ya know?
Wow that is horrible! How could they stand around and do nothing? Hubby has taken a huge pay cut these last couple of years. We are now making less then half what we did 5 years ago. Our mortgage is twice the amount from 5 years ago since we moved here.
I know at times here it has become do we pay the water bill or buy gas to get to work and pay a late fee on the water.
I think that the firemen should of put out the fire and then billed the home owner. What would they have done had there been a person in the house? Let them persish being as the owner did not pay a fee?
I understand what the firemen are saying but there comes a time when ever $75.00 can break a person.ss
RetroB: I know - these guys really should be paid 10 times what they make when you think about it. They should be the millionaires, not actors!
Kristin: I'm thinking it was probably driving those guys crazy that they couldn't go in. :(
To everyone: It's a chain of command thing. The fire fighters probably didn't even know about the fire until they were called to the scene by the neighbor - they are not the ones making that decision. I hope no one blames them for that! Here's the thing too: if they are injured fighting this fire, when they weren't supposed to, it's possible that they could loose their benefits and be on the hook for their medical bills too. That's super frightening, too! :(
That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
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